Tec is well pleased with this thread, she is now the centre of attention yet again...
Doh!
i enjoy the odd thread about evoloution vs creation, etc but lately it seems that a large percentage of threads here devolve into fighting between atheists and theists and distract from what most of us here see eye to eye on, the wt and related things.
i wish things could be more civil here and fr people to realize that people will never see eye to eye on the topic.
it gets so tiring to see the contstant bickring and fighting on those threads.. they seem to go on page after page but very little of substance is discussed seeing as the existence or non existence of a god can be proven by anyone.
Tec is well pleased with this thread, she is now the centre of attention yet again...
Doh!
so i am at a loose end tonight.
i am not going to the meeting and sitting on the back row looking repentant no way!.
here are some options... care to add some if you wish, help me to decide.. 1. go to the meeting and sit in the middle, reading "einstein and religion" paperback, go in early and stay after the prayer.
Social workers?
The first few weeks when i stopped going it was fantastic to sit and watch TV on a Thursday night, it was strange at 1st, but after about 6 weeks the meeting never even crossed my mind.
ok we know it's a stupid mind control cult but sometimes to see it in the flesh is just a slap in the face.... i lent my brother karen armstrongs the bible - the biography, which is a great book to help understand the bible, i have read it twice and it was very informative.
i had hoped my brother may find it likewise and actually learn something.. not a frickin chance.
he gave the book back today with an agitated tone and told me it was crap and that he didnt want me to show him any other books, he had got to page 21, so had only managed the introduction and 12 pages of chapter 1 of a book with 229 pages (300+ if you include glossary and appendix).. inside were some postit noted with notations he'd written about dates quoting from insight volumes and scripture inspired to "correct" the dates in the book for events and dates of reigns like manassahs and hezekiahs.. basically he got mad that the book disagreed with what his drone cult brain read in the wts volumes and refused to read any further.. ffs he didnt even look at another outside source at all, just assumed the book was making error after error on dates and got annoyed.. i am shocked he could be just that dumb.
Not really had the chance to, I forced it at our last meeting by tacking it on out of the blue as they were about to leave.
I just didnt want it left in the air, but I think they just want to avoid thinking about anything or talking about anything that may upset their world view. Here's the gist of it:
I said "you are going to hate me for bringing this up, but ...... you do know what a coregent is dont you?"
Him (+wife) "yes, two kings ruling together"
Me " so if someone is coregent for 10 years and then king for 45 years how many years has he reigned for 45 or 55?"
Them - blank stares, wondering wtf am i on about, " 45 years" seem very unsure so i repeat the question again
Them - similar answers, wife contadicts him.
Me " They are both correct answers as it depends on the context, it's true to say he ruled 45 or 55 years ... you didnt bother to look it up did you when you read that book, I just wanted you to know."
This was one of the points he made a postit note of in my book, the book said one figure the insight book said the other, but he hadnt bothered to ask why the difference. I wanted him to know that both are correct, not either / or.
Wife gets sarcastic saying "Ooookaaaay" probably because she doesnt even know why I even brought it up, my brother knows why and remains quiet.
They leave. I know I am losing them to mind control.
i enjoy the odd thread about evoloution vs creation, etc but lately it seems that a large percentage of threads here devolve into fighting between atheists and theists and distract from what most of us here see eye to eye on, the wt and related things.
i wish things could be more civil here and fr people to realize that people will never see eye to eye on the topic.
it gets so tiring to see the contstant bickring and fighting on those threads.. they seem to go on page after page but very little of substance is discussed seeing as the existence or non existence of a god can be proven by anyone.
Did he call collect?
myself and my family have had some odd experiences in our current congregation.
i have'nt been to meetings since september because of this.. 1. the co told the elder who was studying with my husband that he was doing it as an "academic exercise.
" my husband is very intelligent, been in the military, has a degree and a masters and a good job.
Answer the door naked with a dildo in your hand, they wont come back again.
i enjoy the odd thread about evoloution vs creation, etc but lately it seems that a large percentage of threads here devolve into fighting between atheists and theists and distract from what most of us here see eye to eye on, the wt and related things.
i wish things could be more civil here and fr people to realize that people will never see eye to eye on the topic.
it gets so tiring to see the contstant bickring and fighting on those threads.. they seem to go on page after page but very little of substance is discussed seeing as the existence or non existence of a god can be proven by anyone.
I will be using the term "My Lard" instead of Lord though just in case Tammy gets off on others using the term Lord thinking that it somehow brings him any praise....
i enjoy the odd thread about evoloution vs creation, etc but lately it seems that a large percentage of threads here devolve into fighting between atheists and theists and distract from what most of us here see eye to eye on, the wt and related things.
i wish things could be more civil here and fr people to realize that people will never see eye to eye on the topic.
it gets so tiring to see the contstant bickring and fighting on those threads.. they seem to go on page after page but very little of substance is discussed seeing as the existence or non existence of a god can be proven by anyone.
If one person grabs a loud hailer (bull horn) and appears to have an unfair advantage, then a solution could be to all use one.
If every poster used the cliched phrases "My Lord told me" or "My Lord wants you to know"... etc etc then Tammy will no longer have the upper hand,... it will also see a drastic reduction on the number of newbies signing up here as they run screaming back to "mother WTS" seeing how mad all the apostates are.
Let's all use it every time Tammy does and see how she likes it. I'd love to see Cofty in action using this technique LOL.
let the shouting commence, as my Lord told me so:
myself and my family have had some odd experiences in our current congregation.
i have'nt been to meetings since september because of this.. 1. the co told the elder who was studying with my husband that he was doing it as an "academic exercise.
" my husband is very intelligent, been in the military, has a degree and a masters and a good job.
It was also "goings on" in my congregation that started me down the road to finally researching my religion.
http://www.jwfacts.com/ is a good source of info.
watching the fertilization of an ovum and subsequent cell division it appears that the new being is making itself.
parents were involved, unskilled labor, time, energy.
no thing has ever been observed to make itself, to my knowledge.
Autistic spectrum? I am detecting it.
watching the fertilization of an ovum and subsequent cell division it appears that the new being is making itself.
parents were involved, unskilled labor, time, energy.
no thing has ever been observed to make itself, to my knowledge.
Prologos, you are as bad as Kate at this, go and watch the programs linked to, go and read some wiki articles on it etc etc.
I said THE maths dont lie, not MY maths dont lie. The maths involved are left to experts in the field who know stuff we can only dream about knowing. The maths point the way, the hypothesis follow, hence recent shift towards dark matter and dark energy in the past 30 years as the causes for the initial formation of the galaxies and also their continued acceleration in an expanding universe.
As an ignorant JW I always assumed and was led to believe that scientists just did a lot of guessing and assumptions in describing the universe or things like evolution and they then get presented as FACT. Turns out that wouldnt be science at all and would quickly get routed out and exposed, so it isnt like that at all. The real science stands or falls on its merits.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_wave_equation to get you started.... if you are clever you could work out the speed of light using this equation.